Hi,
I wanna thank you for this clarifying comment here! Yeah, hunterk didn’t seem to explain very well exactly how to get the c button listed. It’s a bit annoying that you’d have to actually be in the game itself and then use the quick menu to remap controls, but this comment saved my Retroarch experience!
The quick menu > controls remapping can only happen when a core+game is loaded because it’s only the core functions that you’re messing with in that menu. In settings > input > retropad binds, you’re messing with physical keycode <-> retropad mapping.
I would like to see some Kind of Controller Type setting something like : “SNES Style” (4 Buttons on the Front) and “GENESIS/SAT/Fightstick Style” (6 or 8 Buttons on the front).
At moment the whole RA Retropad concept Just centered arround snes/PS Style Controller and for everything else you need to use overrides/remappings/strange bindings to get the most out of the devices.
in a perfect world: after the initial controllerbinding you can choose a controller type for your device (“SNES Style” or the other mentioned type) . than every core gets mapped perfectly for your device without changing everything because RA “knows” what your Controller looks like.
an nice alternative would be a core-option with this settings (controller-type: snes-style with “4+2” or saturn/arcade stick Style with “6+2” Buttons).
For now (in the real world^^) you can bind a 6/8-button SATURN Style Pad in 2 ways… Saturn Controller Layout:
Shoulders: L - R
Buttons on the front:
X-Y-Z
A-B-C
for example: if you want to play Megadrive/Genesis/PCE/3DO Game with a 6-Button genesis/saturn pad you need following binding…
Variant 1)
Retroarch -> Controller
RP_A -> PAD_C
RP_B -> PAD_B
RP_X -> PAD_X
RP_Y -> PAD_A
RP_L1 -> PAD_Y
RP_R1 -> PAD_Z
RP_L2 -> PAD_L1
RP_R2 -> PAD_R1
if you want to play Final Burn Neo, Saturn ,SNES, PS1 . you need a 2nd Binding-variant.
Variant 2)
Retroarch -> Controller
RP_A -> PAD_B
RP_B -> PAD_A
RP_X -> PAD_Y
RP_Y -> PAD_X
RP_L1 -> PAD_C
RP_R1 -> PAD_Z
RP_L2 -> PAD_L1
RP_R2 -> PAD_R1
yeah, i know you can allways set per game/core remapping but in my opinion its not a great solution. f. e. setting up a core-remap for genesis and 6-button pad and it will be the “wrong” (unintuitive) mapping for a SNES-Style Pad with that core and vice versa.
and yeah i know, it would be a pain making it work (basicly all core-mapping and controller profiles needed to be updated) but then it woul be possible to play every core with every controller and still getting the best possible experience)
As a not very nice by-product of the “shortcoming” there are different controller profile-styles for same type of pad.
RA Profile for 8bitdo M30 is mapped with variant 1 to play fine with Megadrive/Genesis but another fightpad with same button-layout is mapped with variant 2 to play nice with saturn, fbneo.