CyberLab Death To Pixels Shader Preset Packs

[Cyber]

@RetroGames4K

The Snes screenshots looks awesome. I’m trying to improve my snes settings so they look this good.

@RetroGames4K

these look really sharp. Well done!!

Thanks for these kind compliments.

@RetroGames4K

I don’t know why snes is the one console I’m struggling most.

SNES is an interesting console in that many games look great with reduced sharpness so if you use those games for testing you might think that your tweaking is over until you put on a game like Super Mario World or Super Mario Kart and then you realize that those nice blended settings are making things blurry in games with a lot of line art.

The next thing is something I’ve mentioned to you before concerning getting things to remain in focus as viewing distance increases.

Sharpness is something that I’m currently focussing on since increasing the TVL & Dot-Pitch tends to make things soft all else being equal.

This is something that can be achieved through increasing NTSC Resolution Scale, Horizontal Filter Range, Subtractive Sharpness, and Adaptive Sharpness.

Only the last 4 screenshots are from SNES by the way. The 4 before that are from TurboGrafx-16/Turbo Duo and the 5 above those are from NES.

This fine tuning isn’t always easy as there is always a concern that something won’t look as good as before or that there’ll be more aliasing. For example, in my previous post introducing my CyberLab Sharp Neo GX presets, I was fairly satisfied with the way SNES and TurboGrafx-16/Turbo Duo looked.

Sometimes the hardest part is knowing exactly when to stop.

[RetroGames4K]

@Cyber

This is something that can be achieved through increasing NTSC Resolution Scale, Horizontal Filter Range, Subtractive Sharpness, and Adaptive Sharpness.

Which base preset are you using, with last mega bezel updates some setings are moved or dissapeared, before I could use horizontal sharpness 15.0 and al that but I can’t find those settings now. Now are new ones useful as well, but I miss the other ones.

@Cyber

Only the last 4 screenshots are from SNES by the way. The 4 before that are from TurboGrafx-16/Turbo Duo and the 5 above those are from NES.

yes I know. but I was aware of the snes, because I’m more concerned that I’m trying to make the snes sharp and is more difficult than other consoles. Maybe is may preception, but I will keep tweaking until I find it sharp

[Cyber]

@RetroGames4K

Which base preset are you using,

I’m using the same base preset you were using not too long ago. The one with XBR and NTSC. I think it’s called MBZ__1__Advance_XBR_GDV-NTSC.slangp or something like that.

@RetroGames4K

before I could use horizontal sharpness 15.0 and al that but I can’t find those settings now. Now are new ones useful as well, but I miss the other ones.

The GDV-NTSC base presets don’t have Horizontal Sharpness but the settings they provide are adequate. They just work a little differently.

[Digitech]

Looks awesome man! Great work, thanks a lot for your time

[Cyber]

@Digitech

Looks awesome man! Great work,

Thanks!

@Digitech

thanks a lot for your time

You’re welcome, I try my best.

[Cyber]

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[Cyber]

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[Cyber]

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[Cyber]

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[Cyber]

Introducing, CyberLab Neo-GX_Ultra presets

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[Digitech]

Cyber can i have a request? Its about the most beautiful dot trio shadow mask ive ever seen, just saw a post on reddit and the image quality blew me away https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/140d6zt/the_whole_year_and_a_half_saga_of_finding_the/ https://preview.redd.it/74ttu1e6gw3b1.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=424071f08652d5fa9a249f05ad19a52422d09db3 Is there a possibility that you can mimic that shadow mask as a shader? Maybe you are really close already BTW congrats for your Neo GX Ultra presets really fine work

[Cyber]

@Digitech

Is there a possibility that you can mimic that shadow mask as a shader?

I could try. Shadow Masks are a bit different due to the limitations of dot pitch and the square shape of the dots in the shader.

@Digitech

Maybe you are really close already

Maybe? Have you tried my CyberLab SNES Composite Shadow Mask Sharp Neo GX or Le’Sarsh_4K_Optimized \CyberLab Computer Monitor Raw (or Sharp) presets?

Those might probably be the closest matches at least in terms of TVL. You would have to go pretty close to the screen to make out the individual dots and the Scanline Dynamics should be there as well. That particular TV seems to have some very pronounced, wide looking scanline gaps so maybe the Opposite Direction Blur could be reduced a bit and maybe the Scanline shape could be adjusted to make the gaps even wider in my preset. I did something like that a little while ago but as the gaps widen, you’re going to lose even more brightness.

Another thing you could do is disable or decrease Deconvergence.

@Digitech

BTW congrats for your Neo GX Ultra presets really fine work

Thanks a lot, I try my best.

Take a look at these:

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CyberLab_SNES_Composite_Shadow_Mask_Sharp_Neo-GX

CyberLab_SNES_Composite_Shadow_Mask_Fine_Neo-GX

CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Raw__ADV

CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Sharp__ADV

CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Smooth__ADV

CyberLab_SNES_Composite_Shadow_Mask_Sharp_Neo-GX

CyberLab_SNES_Composite_Shadow_Mask_Fine_Neo-GX

CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Raw__ADV

CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Sharp__ADV

CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Smooth__ADV

@Digitech You can download these screenshots and zoom all the way in so that you can see the phosphors and scanline gaps.

[Cyber]

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[BennyMC]

Hi, I have a question regarding burn-in in OLED TVs.

I have been using your presets for some time on an IPS TV and I love them, but recently upgraded to an LG C2. After reading a bit about burn-in, I am a little bit worried about playing long RPGs or any other game that allows me to play for a lot of hours during the day.

I’ve been thinking of switching to some other CRT shader without bezel, but to me none look as good as these presets. Is it harmful or dangerous in terms of burn-in to use these presets for many hours a day? Is there any way to remove the bezels? Would changing to another CRT shader without bezel be safer?

Thanks in advance, and sorry if my grammar is not the best, English is not my first language.

[Cyber]

Welcome to my nook of Libretro Forums!

First and foremost lets get some things out of the way.

@BennyMC

Is it harmful or dangerous in terms of burn-in to use these presets for many hours a day?

@Cyber

I present these to you without making any claims, representations, warranties nor acceptance of any liabilities whatsoever.

You would have to manage the care and well being of your TV as best as you know how. While I don’t have any issues on my OLED TV, that’s directly related to how I use it overall and your mileage and experience may vary depending on how you use (or abuse) your TV.

@BennyMC

Is it harmful or dangerous in terms of burn-in to use these presets for many hours a day? Is there any way to remove the bezels? Would changing to another CRT shader without bezel be safer?

I can’t say whether or not it would be safer or how harmful or dangerous using these or any CRT Shader Presets would be for any length of time.

What I would say is that if you’re concerned about risking your OLED TV then maybe you might want to reconsider using these presets. Only use them if you’re willing to accept any and all possible risks involved.

Using an OLED TV in the correct manner (or not in an incorrect manner) is one of the responsibilities of the owner.

Concerning removing the bezels, I’m sure this question has been asked numerous times in these forums and also in this thread. I really don’t remember off hand (because it is not something that I do) so I myself would have to use the search feature in order to find the answer to that for you. Will update this post when I find it.

CyberLab Mega Bezel Death To Pixels Shader Preset Pack

Take a read here if you would like to know how to disable the bezel/background graphics. You can read from this post and the next 2 or 3: Another simple way to disable the bezel and backgrounds is to set Opacity to 0 for “Bezel General”, “Frame” and “Background” in the Shader Parameters. Lastly, you can use the Zoom feature in the Shader Parameters and just Zoom the screen in until you crop out the entire bezel. Combined with lowering the Global Graphics Brightness to 0, that will give you …

CyberLab Mega Bezel Death To Pixels Shader Preset Pack

Hi what you did certainly does work, and if you are happy with it that that’s totally cool. If you want to try another solution, you may want to set your retroarch video aspect ratio to FULL, that’s because that’s why the sides are cut off/black. Then if you want the screen bigger you can either use the shader parameters for viewport zoom, or Non-Integer scale.

[BennyMC]

Thank you so much for the thorough response.

I’m going to take into account everything you said and decide if the “risk” is too much for me. Probably will keep on using them, just without the bezel for some peace of mind.

Again, thanks a lot!

[Cyber]

I think the main thing that has worked for me is that I tend to vary my use a lot. I use my TV as a monitor but also for playing games using Mega Bezel (of course) but I also watch TV and movies, videos as well.

If you’re going to be skipping out on the other uses then you might very well run into some issues.

Do note that there’s a difference between Burn-In and temporary image retention.

The only time I had any issue with temporary image retention was after playing Civilization V, which is a somewhat highly addictive and thus OLED unfriendly game. That game is one which can easily hook you into playing exclusively for days and weeks without wanting to play or watch anything else on the set, however, once I noticed the image retention, I ran clear panel noise a couple times until it went away.

That was a very long time ago and there have been many advancements in terms of image retention mitigation both on the software and hardware side since then. I also have my TV on a stand more than a foot off the wall. That might help to keep things from cooking a bit, which might actually help in the image retention department.

I’ve had my TV for over 7 years now and apart from some damage to the motherboard due to a lightning strike which resulted in a slow death of the board, which I replaced and about 1 dead pixel on the left side of the screen which I can’t see unless I go close to the screen and look for it everything is still running fine.

Other than that I have a plain black desktop background, hidden desktop icons and auto-hide my taskbar.

I use colorcontrol and LG-TV Companion to unlock additional features of the TV and I also use a utility called HDMI-Yo to help with the occasional handshaking issue between my TV, Receiver and PC.

These presets were designed primarily on an LG OLED TV so you’ll probably get a really awesome experience if that’s what you’re using as well.

[Digitech]

thanks a lot fir the really detailed response,ill try those presets looks phenomenal, if you give the dot trio shadow mask a chance would be awesome, thanks a lot for your time man!

[Gallego76]

I’m new to all this shaders and they are amazing. Which one you people would recommend for consoles like the 3do cdi and jaguar?

[Cyber]

@Gallego76

I’m new to all this shaders and they are amazing.

Thanks and welcome to my nook of Libretro Forums!

@Gallego76

Which one you people would recommend for consoles like the 3do cdi and jaguar?

Hmmm…I haven’t really tweaked any presets specifically for those but I’m sure that some of the ones I already made would work well with them.

You can probably start with my CyberLab Neo GX presets (provided you’re using a 4K display).

Other than that, just try my Console Specific Presets, you can try my Sega Genesis, Turbo Duo, PSX and N64 presets and see which might happen to fit well.

Lastly, you can try my presets that are not in the console specific presets or Neo GX Folders. For example, CyberLab Composite Pure, Composite Sharp, Computer Monitor, Arcade Sharp and my Ultimate Virtual Slot Mask CRT series of presets.

Feel free to experiment and you can also post a few screenshots to get some further assistance based on how things look with the games and cores you try.

Once you get a preset that you like save it as a Core or Game Preset.

Be sure to read the first post as that will give you a good idea of how to use the preset pack to its fullest.