Please show off what crt shaders can do!

You can find the latest version here

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Yeah me too :nerd_face:

I just checked, I use 5 presets with crt-royale for differents effects (blend,sharp etc)

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Nice shots. The new LG G1 OLED is supposed to be a lot brighter than than the older Generation CX, but yea they said it can’t touch the nits of the QN90A.

It’s ultimately going to be a toss up between this TV and the G1 when I upgrade finally to 4K, as soon as video cards become more available.

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For games I think QN90A has the edge because of the brightness and no burn in worry. I love the super dark blacks of OLED for movies but usually not so much in games. In my use case scenario I’m trying to use a the QN90a as my main pc monitor for work and fun. Both are amazing.

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So after messing with my CRT for a bit I’m going to drop some thoughts.

First of all black levels on CRT’s be weird yo, I had spaced about CRT’s liking dark homes lol (so during the day if the room is getting basically any natural light really, blacks become very greyish, which is how the tube looks basically).

So my jank ass conclusion is CRT’s have ridiculous blacks in low light conditions because of two reasons.

First being that when black is actually happening on a CRT I think it’s either not lighting or giving minimum lighting from the gun or w/e, I’m tired :sleeping:

Second, because of the first situation if you’re viewing a CRT in low light conditions, your eyes will do some fun dilation things, which you guessed it, will lead to some optical illusions.

Basically I’m calling CRT black levels an optical illusion because imho if you’re not viewing it in ideal conditions all blacks will be some form of grey. (Too be technical CRT’s do have ridiculous black levels, its just not as reliable in function as newer technology. Like my OLEDs blacks will hold wayyyy better in basically any lighting condition that isn’t almost darkness rofl)

To clarify, love this CRT and CRT’s in general, they have banging black levels, these were just some observations and thoughts I had, felt like sharing with my fellow nerds.

EDIT: Besides the black levels being… Ya nevermind on to the next thing. I’ve also came to the conclusion that I’ve been going super ham with the curvature settings.

Neither of my CRT’s behave anything like that, one being a “flat” display (edges just be thicker), and the other being a more bulbous display. The only area that really receives any curvature distortion, is in the corner on each diagonal, like maybe about 10% of the overall display has curvature distortion, the “flat” display does other fun stuff like magnifying the left and right side of the screen.

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My Advanced Mega Bezel preset of the Ambassador 26 color television actually takes this into account, depending on whether you have night mode on or off.

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Another random observation post!

So have actually noticed phosphor trails on my CRT. Originally I had intentionally tested this on Little Samson yesterday because it’s just a thing I do to test phosphor trails in shaders (don’t judge me :joy:). Testing showed it wasn’t super pronounced or anything like that but I could definitely see it if I was actively looking for it.

Well the thing is, that’s a black background I test on (with Little Samson). Well, earlier I was playing DuckTales for NES and noticed something as I sat (6ft surprisingly) from my CRT, on a light blue ass background I was clearly watching the red phosphors of my character bleed/trail as I did fast movements, wasn’t super long or pronounced either, but I definitely noticed it even when I wasn’t even looking for it, was just chilling playing games wasn’t testing or looking for shit :joy:.

Tldr; Phosphors appear to trail on any background color if the color is different enough, at least this is my guess on wtf is happening.

@hunterk Am I high or losing my mind!? Is this something you can reproducing on an actual CRT? (I think you have some anyway…)

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It’s certainly possible. I don’t think any of mine do it to any noticeable extent, but red phosphors generally have much, much longer decay times than the blue or green ones. I guess it could be extra-noticeable against the blue background, since the reds would be getting zero juice on their own. So the trails look purple, I guess? red+blue?

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Trails lean more towards the red end of the spectrum but the blue does mix a tiny bit.

I should be getting one of my sisters a legit camera for her birthday maybe I can get her to do some shots when she gets her shit together :joy:

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I promise this is my last observation post for the week!

I haven’t had the opportunity to test it via component yet, but via composite, one thing I’ve been swearing up and down that exists on actually CRT’s, well actually does exist.

I’m talking about static/film grain/noise, it’s harder to notice the further you get from the display but if you’re within probably around 3-4 feet from CRT you can clearly see the static over everything.

Sorry to @ you again @hunterk but is this a thing you can see on your CRT’s? I’m just trying to make sure it’s not just me or my CRT being weird :joy:

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it can happen with bad cables and/or dirty jacks/connectors, sure. It’s not really a CRT thing, per se.

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Yeah… I’m definitely blaming the cable in this situation tbh.

Still tho, I feel the majority of consumers regularly dealt/experienced this. (I had distinctly remembered it from using them up until my teens :joy:)

You should upload the images to an image hosting site, the forums are compressing the absolute crap out of them.

So please let me actually see the pretty pics :joy:

I’ve been comparing my new Qled against my CRT. Using the 240p test suite with the side scrolling motion test (The Sonic the Hedgehog background). I still get a little bit of jitter on my CRT, no matter the scaling option chosen. Is your CRT perfectly clear?

I thought the CRT would be 100% clear but it’s more like 90% vs the QLED which is at 80%. Impressive modern displays are catching up. The QLED does suffer from faint ghosting but I’ll take that over a jittery mess any day.

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For that kind of thing, I’d have to wait to give you answer as I don’t trust my current setup for that kind of test.

  • As I’m currently using an Android tv box.

  • Using it’s av out port, which is like a headphone jack, that does composite video and audio. (Camcorder cable or w/e)

  • Unfortunately my cable is the incorrect pinout for my port, so I have to plug it 3/4 in and I don’t get any audio. (The video seems fine with the exception of some light static)

  • The cherry on this crap cake is that everything is running at 480i with no options to change it via the OS and software I’m running, also the build of RA on the OS doesn’t allow changes to the scaling resolution for games, I can set integer scaling on/off and set the scale type (core/config/custom/4:3/16:9/etc.) but nothing beyond that.

Hopefully in about two weeks I’ll be ordering a mister and will be able to compare with component input hopefully.

EDIT: To clarify the biggest issue with my current setup is games aren’t being scaled like they should at all, probably a byproduct of everything running in 480i because of the OS, tbh.

Also I still haven’t been able to access the service menu for it yet either… But things looked fine with the horizontal and vertical overscan situation when I used my ps3 in 4:3 mode via composite (which is also 480i, I cri, it hurts my soul) I have gotten one of my remotes connected to the CRT now, so I do remote things ya know :joy:

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I don’t trust my setup either which is why I’m asking. :slight_smile: My setup is a big boy PC running retroarch with a display port to vga adapter on a 1600x1200 CRT pc monitor.

Everything looks awesome but I wonder how it compares to others. I ran the BlurBuster UFO test and the CRT is definitely more clear at 60hz vs QLED 120hz which has a pronounced double image effect in it’s attempts to keep things sharp.

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Your setup makes me super jelly, I have a big box forever license, just haven’t actually set anything up. Currently looking around locally for a CRT monitor.

Glad your setup looks good!

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When I was young I was always jealous of the kids who had the Neo Geo, or had the latest system right when it came out. One kid even had a few arcade cabinets in his “play room.” Now I have become the spoiled neighbor kid.

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So you’re now that one cool kid at school rofl.

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