CyberLab Death To Pixels Shader Preset Packs

[PU786]

If RetroArch is using HDR10 PQ, and not HLG, shouldn’t Paper White always be set to 200 nits regardless of your panels peak nits? (203 nits to be precise, not sure if you can edit that in the settings file.)

[Cyber]

That’s not how it works. We’re not really trying to calibrate to any standards here. We’re just piggy-backing on HDR in order to unlock the most brightness out of our HDR displays in order to compensate for the brightness loss caused by trying to draw an image on the screen using an extremely high percentage of dark coloured and black subpixels, which make up the Mask, Phosphors and Scanlines.

The peak we enter determines the absolute maximum of the highlights we can display, while the paper white determines the overall brightness of the screen.

[DiegoBRRSPF]

Hi!

I would really appreciate it if anyone could help me.

I have 2 simples doubts about the installation of the four miniLED and NX preset packs.

1. It says on the post: “After downloading, copy the “crt-guest-advanced-2024-02-29-release1” folder into the “…\Retroarch\shaders_slang” folder”. But the correct is copy the CONTENT of the “crt-guest-advanced-2024…” folder to the \Retroarch\shaders_slang\crt\ folder and overwrite the existing files, right?

2. The same goes for the “hdr_crt-sony-megatron-5.7_CBL_mod” folder. What I have to do? Move the content of the folder to the \Retroarch\shaders_slang\hdr\ folder and overwrite the files?

Thanks a lot!

[Cyber]

@DiegoBRRSPF

I have 2 simples doubts about the installation of the four miniLED and NX preset packs.

1. It says on the post: “After downloading, copy the “crt-guest-advanced-2024-02-29-release1” folder into the “…\Retroarch\shaders_slang” folder”. But the correct is copy the CONTENT of the “crt-guest-advanced-2024…” folder to the \Retroarch\shaders_slang\crt\ folder and overwrite the existing files, right?
2. The same goes for the “hdr_crt-sony-megatron-5.7_CBL_mod” folder. What I have to do? Move the content of the folder to the \Retroarch\shaders_slang\hdr\ folder and overwrite the files?

There is no error in the installation instructions for any of the preset packs listed here.

You seem to be overthinking while you just need to follow the few simple steps.

From my W420M preset pack onward, the crt-guest-advanced-2024-02-29-release1 is included so you don’t really need to fetch it and install it in the correct folder.

So, download zip file containing preset pack. Open or extract it.

You’ll see a Shaders Folder in the zip file. Copy that into your RetroArch Installation folder (It may not necessarily be named RetroArch.)

Installation:

To install these presets copy the “Shaders” folder into the “…\RetroArch” folder.

[Cyber]

Another good example of Composite Video on a CRT.

https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/s/GFMZT41NTF

https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/s/W43Tn9Xdxg

[Cyber]

CyberLab CRT-Consumer-1W-NTSC-XL Genesis Composite RC3.slangp

#reference "shaders_slang/crt/crt-consumer-1w-ntsc-XL.slangp"
N_SYSTEM = "1.000000"
COMB = "0.900000"
u_gamma = "0.950000"
Luma_bw = "2.400000"
Chroma_bw = "2.149999"
U_RADIUS = "8.000000"
c_gain = "2.150000"
u_sharp = "0.490000"
u_warp = "0.000000"
u_scan = "0.300000"
u_mask = "0.450000"
u_wid = "3.000000"
u_deconv = "0.100000"

[DiegoBRRSPF]

Thank you for your response. The point was that I saw the Retro Crisis video and things got confused. But it’s all clear now, thanks a lot.

By the way, a last question: I really like the 4K optimized “CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Smooth__ADV” and “CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Sharp__ADV” presets for DOS and Windows 95/98 games. But when I use them in a game with a “higher” resolution like 1024x768 (instead of 640x480, for instance) the window became very small, I understand because the shader adapts with the resolution. But if I use the “pure” Mega Bezel MBZ__0__SMOOTH-ADV preset, for instance, this doesn’t happen - the screen remains full no matter the resolution.

Is there a way to keep the window full with the Cyberlab presets?

Thanks a lot!

[Cyber]

@DiegoBRRSPF

But when I use them in a game with a “higher” resolution like 1024x768 (instead of 640x480, for instance) the window became very small, I understand because the shader adapts with the resolution. But if I use the “pure” Mega Bezel MBZ__0__SMOOTH-ADV preset, for instance, this doesn’t happen - the screen remains full no matter the resolution.

Is there a way to keep the window full with the Cyberlab presets?

Hmmm…this might be due to the fact that the overwhelming majority of my presets use Integer Scale mode. You can probably adjust the size of the screen by adjusting the Integer Scale Offset. Or just change Integer Scale Mode to Non-Integer Scale mode.

[DiegoBRRSPF]

Hi @Cyber!

As a matter of fact I’m already using Integer Scale OFF, as making it ON only makes the things even smaller (BTW, I believe Mega Bezel install instructions includes making the Integer Scale OFF)

Here is my “default” settings:

Now some screenshots to help (Windows 98 installation on Dosbox-pure Core with a 1024x768 resolution on Windows desktop):

"Pure" Meg Bezel presets with Integer Scale OFF

“MBZ__0__SMOOTH-ADV” preset with 640x480 in-game resolution - Integer Scale OFF

“MBZ__0__SMOOTH-ADV” preset with 1024x768 in-game resolution - Integer Scale OFF

Please notice that only the game window has changed - naturally, the lower resolution makes the game “less zoomed”.

Now the CyberLab presets with Integer Scale OFF:

“CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Smooth__ADV” preset with 640x480 in-game resolution - Integer Scale OFF

“CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Smooth__ADV” preset with 1024x768 in-game resolution - Integer Scale OFF

And the CyberLab presets with Integer Scale ON:

“CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Smooth__ADV” preset with 640x480 in-game resolution - Integer Scale ON

“CyberLab__Computer-Monitor-Smooth__ADV” preset with1024x768 in-game resolution - Integer Scale ON

Please notice that, for instance, the smooth preset with Integer Scale ON (on both in-game resolutions) not only turn out the smallest window, but the background doesn’t even fill the entire screen (I’m using a 4K OLED TV).

Any ideas?

Thanks a lot!

[DiegoBRRSPF]

Hi @Cyber!

Sorry, when you said “Integer Scale Offset” or “Integer Scale Mode” you were refering to the settings below, right?

If I change the Integer Scale Mode to OFF, it works as I wanted to:

On the other hand, if I change the “Integer Scale Offset” from 0 to 1 (for instance), the screen change like this (the screen goes beyond the limit):

And by the way, If I change the Base Integer …% from 89 to some other value, nothing happens UNTIL it does (I believe from around 105) - when the screen appears exactly like the image above.

[Cyber]

@Cyber

Hmmm…this might be due to the fact that the overwhelming majority of my presets use Integer Scale mode. You can probably adjust the size of the screen by adjusting the Integer Scale Offset. Or just change Integer Scale Mode to Non-Integer Scale mode.

Non of these settings I’m referring to are in the Settings–»Video–»Scaling Menu. They are all Shader Parameters.

Quick Menu–»Shaders–»Shader Parameters

[DiegoBRRSPF]

Hi @Cyber!

Please, a word of advice. I want to play only with the TV border, not the entire external bezel.

To do so, I just changed Settings > Video > Scalling > Aspect Ratio from “Full” to “Core provided”. In doing so, I got this:

After that, I just changed the “BACKGROUND LAYER” > “Opacity” from 100.00 to 0.00.

And the result is what I wanted:

BUT, maybe there’s a catch - as I changed the aspect ratio (Mega Bezel recommends the “Full” option), is there any undesired effects on the game itself (the main window I mean) in doing that (not only for this core, any other core)? Or the “Full” option is really just to show the Bezel?

Thanks in advance!

[Cyber]

@DiegoBRRSPF

is there any undesired effects on the game itself (the main window I mean) in doing that (not only for this core, any other core)? Or the “Full” option is really just to show the Bezel?

Mega Bezel uses its own Scaling parameters for various functions so Aspect Ratio needs to be set to Full in the Settings–»Video–»Scaling Menu in order to bypass the Aspect Ratio settings there.

You don’t need to interfere with the Scaling settings to turn off or alter the visibility of the Background Graphic.

All layers can be adjusted by using the controls in their sections.

I suggest you familiarize yourself with the Mega Bezel readme.

@HyperspaceMadness

RETROARCH SETUP

• Do all of the following before loading content
  • Set the Video Driver
    • Set video driver to Vulkan or GLCore if Vulkan is not available
    • It will run in GLCore but seems faster in Vulkan
    • D3D IS NOT RECOMMENDED . If it loads in D3D it has a VERY slow load time
    • Restart Retroarch after changing the video driver
• Video Scaling
  • Open the Settings Menu and Set:
    • User Interface / Show Advanced Settings to ON
    • Video /

@HyperspaceMadness

LOADING AND SAVING PRESETS

• Load a preset in the shaders menu.
  • The Mega Bezel shader presets are found in: Retroarch/shaders/shaders_slang/bezel/Mega_Bezel/Presets
• IMPORTANT!! When saving a preset make sure you have the Simple Presets feature set to ON
  • This will save a preset with a reference to the preset you loaded plus whatever parameter changes you made
  • This keeps your presets loading properly when the shader updates in the future

@HyperspaceMadness

EDITING PRESETS

• You can then open this Simple Preset file and add other parameter adjustments or set textures as you see fit. E.G. add the following lines to change the background image:
  • BackgroundImage = "MyImage.jpg"
• Or change the path indicated on the #reference line to point at a different base preset

@HyperspaceMadness

For details see the README here https://github.com/HyperspaceMadness/Mega_Bezel

[DiegoBRRSPF]

Hi @Cyber!

Thanks, you’re always helpful.

I apologize, but I forgot another important detail about why I find it interesting to leave the Aspect Ratio setting as “Core provided”. Although I primarily use the CyberLab presets, I have a few others installed, and all of them require to have the Aspect Ratio as “Core provided” (if it’s on “Full”, naturally, the image streches over the screen using those shaders).

Therefore, it would be beneficial for me to leave the Aspect Ratio as “Core provided” so I don’t have to change this setting depending on the shader being used.

That’s why I tried setting the aspect ratio to “Core provided” and tweaking the remaining border settings until it looked the way I wanted.

As it has to be “Full” on the Cyberlab shaders, any ideas on how to reconcile the use of both shaders?

[Cyber]

@DiegoBRRSPF

Cyberlab shaders

There are no CyberLab Shaders, only Presets (Settings) for shaders made by other people.

You do realize that you are asking primarily about Mega Bezel Reflection Shader functionality but this is not the Mega Bezel Reflection Shader thread.

I hardly use Mega Bezel Reflection Shader anymore so for me to answer many of your questions, I actually have to go looking in the places you should be looking and asking.

In my case, if I have to switch Scaling settings to use a border shader, I just go to the menu and make the change. My default settings are based on what I primarily use.

[Cyber]

https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/s/6HRXfMQPZG

https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/s/Eh0RetbB30

[ROBMARK85]

Hi @Cyber - I need your advice: I’ve got my hands on a 50-inch full HD TV and wanted to move my Mini PC there after formatting it. So I wanted to use @soqueroeu’s work along with yours, which is included in your package, but I’m unclear on a couple of things:

1 - Are Blargg’s filters necessary for good results or optional? Of course, if I use them, I’ll use your updated version.

2 - I saw that you have a preset for Sony PlayStation as well as for the classic Super Nintendo and Sega Megadrive, could it also be good to use with Sega Saturn and Nintendo 64?

Thank you so much for your patience with me and for the work you put into helping us.

[Cyber]

@ROBMARK85

• Are Blargg’s filters necessary for good results or optional? Of course, if I use them, I’ll use your updated version.

If the preset filename says “For Blargg” then it’s strongly recommend to use Blargg if not, things might not look as they should.

If it says “Blargg recommended” then it is up to you if you want to use it.

@ROBMARK85

2 - I saw that you have a preset for Sony PlayStation as well as for the classic Super Nintendo and Sega Megadrive, could it also be good to use with Sega Saturn and Nintendo 64?

@Cyber

PSA: N64 ----> Composite Pure, Composite Sharp & Arcade Sharp All look fantastic!

CyberLab Death To Pixels Shader Preset Packs

With new presets come new recommendations. I’ve used friendly, abbreviated names and not the preset filenames in the list below. If you can’t figure out which friendly names correspond to which presets, feel free to ask. NES - CyberLab NES for Blargg + Core Blargg S-Video Filter SNES - CyberLab Slot Mask, CyberLab SNES, CyberLab SNES Sharp Arcade/Neo Geo - CyberLab Slot Mask, CyberLab Arcade Sharp Atari - CyberLab Arcade Sharp, CyberLab Old TV, CyberLab Atari, CyberLab Atari Sharp C64 …

I never intended to support all systems, only the ones I play, like or are interested in. N64 is one of my least favourite systems and it generally hasn’t aged well in my opinion. Due to this it’s just an afterthought in my preset pack if thought of at all.

You can just try any preset and see what you think looks best to you. There are different ways to combine Soqueroeu’s-TV-Backgrounds with my presets.

The second way involves converting Soqueroeu’s-TV-Backgrounds presets to params files then loading them as a second reference with my presets as the main reference.

An example of this can be found in my CyberLab_Special_Edition folder but the “BackgroundImage” line has to be replaced with the second reference line.

@ROBMARK85

Thank you so much for your patience with me and for the work you put into helping us.

You’re welcome.

[ROBMARK85]

Perfect - you were very clear - thanks as always for your work. PS I agree with you that the N64 has aged rather poorly, but Super Mario 64 is so much fun!

[Cyber]

I recently made a good N64 preset for my Epic preset pack and I also have N64 presets scattered around my various preset pack offerings.

In the past, I’ve also used my NES presets as good starting points for N64 emulation but the key to a great N64 emulation experience using CRT shaders may actually lie in how you setup your N64 emulator.

That can either make or break the experience.

N64 cores and HDR - what's the best solution?

I use ParaLLel RDP and ParaLLel RSP in Mupen64 Next with 4x Upscale and 1/4 Downsampling. I just made a standalone N64 Composite preset (CyberLab Megatron miniLED 4K HDR Game BFI N64 Composite Shadow Mask Epic.slangp) that I found acceptable in my miniLED Epic preset pack. Previously, I was using NES presets for N64. I also prefer to use Vulkan in Native mode in nVidia Control Panel. That setting seems to reset after I update my graphics drivers. What does your N64 setup look like currently? …

@ROBMARK85

I’ve got my hands on a 50-inch full HD TV

By the way, what make and model is it? If it’s bright enough you can try some of my Sony Megatron miniLED Epic presets.