What about users that only has a 1080p monitor? is there a way we could also achieve a soft look? on my end the scanlines are too strong
Of course you can adjust the sharpness or softness to your liking and there are several ways to go about this. What preset pack are you referring to though?
Have you tried every preset?
Fine or higher TVL or lower Mask Size presets are usually less sharp.
If you’re using an NTSC preset, you can lower the Resolution Scale.
You can also decrease any parameter that deals with sharpness or adjust any horizontal filter. You can also lower Chroma Resolution / Bleeding.
You can also use a lower “input quality”/resolution Blargg NTSC Video Filter Preset if you’re using those. Many of my presets are designed with the intention of using them in conjunction with some of these video filter presets.
You said the scanlines are too strong, you can adjust that as well by choosing a lower GSL Scanline Type if using one of my Mega Bezel Presets. If using my Sony Megatron Preset pack, you can increase the Scanline Min/Max.
Which presets or presets do you find look too sharp that you’ve tried?
Please include a screenshot to help me to better understand and if you can describe what you’re trying to achieve in a little more detail then perhaps I can better assist.
if i’m using the windowcast core and i load a cyberlab shader or megabezel preset retroarch will freeze. is there a fix?
This looks like one for the WindowCast core thread:
CyberLab Megatron NX Death To Pixels 4K HDR Shader Preset Pack!
Hi, I have a problem !
I don’t know what happened but from one moment to the next the shader stopped giving me an image and instead it shows me this screen with information, I looked in the shader options to see if any parameter was causing it but I couldn’t find anything, if I put megabezel show info=0 the letters only turn yellow I only remember updating retroarch but I could still play fine and the shader worked until now. I don’t know if they can provide support here i am new at this
Did you also update your Slang Shaders using the Online Updater?
Did you read and understand this?
Especially this part:
Also this:
This is the first thing I would check.
Pro Tip: 4K users who have displays that can handle full RGB 4:4:4 change the Mask Type to 12 and the Mask Size to 1.
Note: This doesn’t apply to all presets and this won’t work on my Slot Mask or Computer Monitor presets.
4K users who have displays that can only do YCbCr 4:2:0 you can use the current Mask 6, Size 2 which is good but not perfect or try Mask 7 or 8 with Deconvergence turned off.
This applies to CyberLab Mega Bezel Death To Pixels Shader Preset Pack.
If using CyberLab CRT-Royale Death To Pixels Shader Preset Pack try setting the Max Triad Size Desired to 6 or whatever value gives you RGB triads on your display.
@Theoldnation you can probably try this before buying a new TV. If your TV needs a different Mask Subpixel layout you can probably try Hyllian’s CRT Shader Preset pack as I recall @Hyllian included Subpixel Layouts for both RGB and BGR layout in his CRT-Royale Shader Preset Pack.
CyberLab Megatron NX 4K HDR Game Arcade Smooth Ultra.slangp in action!
These are photos of an HDR Shader Preset in action so you might have to brighten your display if you want to get a better idea of how it looks in person.
...more
Be sure to click on the images and click Load Full Resolution to experience the full quality.
…and here are some HDR GPU Screenshots of some other CyberLab Megatron NX presets in action
I’m having a bit of a problem with the psx preset. I’m using it with the duimon backgrounds, and for some reason, the screen is too big that it doesn’t show the frame correctly, looks cropped. I can’t find a way to solve this, please help!
Hi, can you state exactly which PSX Preset you’re using, which one of Duimon’'s backgrounds as well as the method used to integrate both presets?
I could remember having some challenges with moire patterns when making those PSX presets if the scaling was set to anything other than what I have it set to now.
I see you’re using 1080p resolution. The presets in the 1080p Optimized folder were mostly converted from other higher resolution optimized options so something could have slipped through the cracks.
You can first try decreasing the Int. Scale Offset and see if it solves your issue.
Is the Playstation-[ADV]-[Guest]-[Bezel]-[Night].slangp, and I used the method of opening the Duimon’s preset with notepad and pasting your preset file location.
I tried decreasing the Int. Scale Offset but it was already 0 so it didn’t solve the problem.
And there’s no negative Int. Scale Offset available?
You can lower the Int. Scale % or the Non Int. Scale %.
Which one you have to use depends on if the Int. Scale Mode is set to. If it’s on 0, then Int. Scaling is off so you have to use the Non-Int. Scale %. If it’s 1 or 2 then you have to use the Int. Scale %.
There’s another method of integrating my presets with Duimon’s or any other overlay or background.
You can go into my CyberLab_Special_Edition folder and you will see some examples.
In those examples I used my own graphics but if you wanted to use Duimon’s graphics instead, you could replace the background line in the preset with a second reference line that points to the *.params version of Duimon’s presets.
There is supposed to be an entire folder of his presets in *.params format.
If the overlay/background pack you’re using doesn’t have its presets in *.params format, you can convert them yourself by first making a copy of the original presets folder then editing the presets in that folder to remove or comment out the reference lines.
It’s really very simple if you understand what you’re doing.
As for my example presets, you can change the presets in the first reference line to any preset in my Mega Bezel Death To Pixels Shader Preset Pack.
I tried to use your presets without any other integration and I’m having the same problem, I’m using Playstation ADV preset. I’ve actually tried to put a negative integer scale offset but then the image becomes too small, and I can’t choose between a balance, so yeah, I don’t really know what to do now.
Also, if i try to use non integer scale, the crt shader becomes uneven and looks really bad.
By default both Duimon’s and my preset have Int. Scale Mode set to 0 (Off) and neither of them looked bad to me when I loaded them using their defaults.
The difference lies in the Non-Integer Scale % used. For Duimon’s preset which doesn’t feature strong Mask or Scanlines effects the default of 82.97 works fine without any moire patterns or other anomalies. For my preset which features much more detailed mask and scanlines you will notice moire patterns at certain resolutions. Unfortunately you’re running up against the laws of physics here and there’s not much that can be done instead of some sort of compromise somewhere.
One thing you can do is decouple the Bezel scaling from the viewport (game screen) scaling then you can use my Integer or non-Integer Scale settings without the severe moire effects. The caveat would be that instead of the entire bezel being scaled and parts of it being cropped off, the content is going to be scaled and some of it might be cut off. A real CRT TV does this to some extent. It’s called Overscan but in this case it may or may not be too excessive.
Another thing you can do is take a look my MBZ__3__Standard_Full_Reflections_Soqueroeu-TV_Special_Edition folder. You can probably note some of the settings or try to integrate one of those presets with Duimon’s preset.
Also, if you use the method of integration, I described in my previous post, using my MBZ__1__Advance_Full_Reflections_CyberLab_Special_Edition presets as a template there are some built-in overrides to deal with things like Bezel Independent Curvature.
So this:
#reference "../../../MBZ__0__Smooth-Advance_Full_Reflections/4K_Optimized_Presets/Console_Specific_Presets/CyberLab_Turbo_Duo_S-Video_Slot_Mask_IV_OLED_NTSC_II.slangp"
BackgroundImage = "../../../Resources/CyberLab_Graphics/CyberLab_Full_Range_Stereo_Mega_TV.png"
HSM_AMBIENT_LIGHTING_OPACITY = "98.000000"
HSM_AMBIENT1_OPACITY = "68.000000"
HSM_ASPECT_RATIO_MODE = "2.000000"
HSM_NON_INTEGER_SCALE = "83.969986"
HSM_PHYSICAL_MONITOR_DIAGONAL_SIZE = "55.000000"
HSM_PHYSICAL_SIM_TUBE_DIAGONAL_SIZE = "20.000019"
HSM_SCREEN_POSITION_X = "-1.000000"
HSM_TUBE_DIFFUSE_MODE = "1.000000"
HSM_TUBE_DIFFUSE_IMAGE_AMOUNT = "25.000000"
HSM_TUBE_BLACK_EDGE_THICKNESS = "-630.000000"
HSM_BZL_USE_INDEPENDENT_SCALE = "1.000000"
HSM_BZL_INDEPENDENT_SCALE = "89.869896"
HSM_INT_SCALE_MODE = "0.000000"
HSM_CURVATURE_MODE = "1.000000"
HSM_CRT_CURVATURE_SCALE = "10.000000"
Would (or could) become this:
#reference "../../../MBZ__0__Smooth-Advance_Full_Reflections/4K_Optimized_Presets/Console_Specific_Presets/CyberLab_Turbo_Duo_S-Video_Slot_Mask_IV_OLED_NTSC_II.slangp"
#reference "../../../../Duimon-Mega-Bezel/Presets/Advanced/TV/TV7-[ADV]-[Guest]-[Night].slangp"
HSM_AMBIENT_LIGHTING_OPACITY = "98.000000"
HSM_AMBIENT1_OPACITY = "68.000000"
HSM_ASPECT_RATIO_MODE = "2.000000"
HSM_NON_INTEGER_SCALE = "83.969986"
HSM_PHYSICAL_MONITOR_DIAGONAL_SIZE = "55.000000"
HSM_PHYSICAL_SIM_TUBE_DIAGONAL_SIZE = "20.000019"
HSM_SCREEN_POSITION_X = "-1.000000"
HSM_TUBE_DIFFUSE_MODE = "1.000000"
HSM_TUBE_DIFFUSE_IMAGE_AMOUNT = "25.000000"
HSM_TUBE_BLACK_EDGE_THICKNESS = "-630.000000"
HSM_BZL_USE_INDEPENDENT_SCALE = "1.000000"
HSM_BZL_INDEPENDENT_SCALE = "89.869896"
HSM_INT_SCALE_MODE = "0.000000"
HSM_CURVATURE_MODE = "1.000000"
HSM_CRT_CURVATURE_SCALE = "10.000000"
You could replace the 1st reference line with any of my presets and the second refence line with any of Duimon’s presets in *.params format, which is just a preset with the reference line removed or commented out.
Another thing that might help is using a higher TVL Mask. I didn’t mention it before because it’s something I just haven’t tried much at 1080p but it’s quite possible that you just need to use one of the Magenta-Green masks and that might actually resolve the issue of moire pattern appearing when adjusting the Non-integer Scale %.
Unfortunately, I don’t have a key showing all of the Mask Patterns available in CRT-Guest-Advanced or Mega Bezel but it should be somewhere in these forums.
You can even cycle through all the Mask Options as well. Be sure to keep the CRT Mask size on 1.
You can use this as a guide to help find the 2 colour masks, which would be higher TVL and less likely to have moire issues at a given resolution.
Based on the above list I’d probably try Masks 0, 5 and 7 first.
You can also try a lower GSL Scanline Type.
Lastly, make sure the Mask Layout matches the subpixel layout of your display.
CyberLab Mega Bezel Death To Pixels Shader Preset Pack SDR to HDR Conversion
Settings–>Video–>HDR
- Enable HDR - On
- Peak Luminance - 630
- Paper White Luminance - 630
- Contrast - 5.30x - 5.40x
- Expand Gamut - On
Plus
Load a shader preset then follow the steps below:
Reset the following shader parameters to defaults:
- Post CRT Brightness - 1.00
- Bright Boost Bright Pixels - 1.10
- Bright Boost Dark Pixels - 1.40
- Gamma Correct – gamma_c - 1.00
Adjust the following settings:
- Graphics Brightness - 40.00
- Graphics Gamma Adjust - 0.62
- Saturation - (Increase by +0.31)
Also set all Afterglow and Persistence settings to 0.00:
- PR = “0.000000”
- PG = “0.000000”
- PB = “0.000000”
- AS = “0.000000”
- sat = “0.000000”
To fix Shadowmask Presets (Only for Mega Bezel 1.15.0 or higher):
- mshift = “1.000000”
For a little extra brightness:
- gsl = “0.000000”
- maskstr = “0.950000”
Peak and Paper White Luminance values must be set to whatever values are appropriate for the user’s display. Values displayed are for reference only.
Requires Mega Bezel v1.15.0 or higher.
Note that CyberLab Mega Bezel Death To Pixels Shader Preset Pack has not been updated to take into consideration the many changes implemented in Mega Bezel Reflection Shader v1.15.0 and beyond, therefore some if not most presets will not look as originally intended.
This should work fine with the latest recommended version 1.14 of Mega Bezel Reflection Shader.
CyberLab CRT Royale Death To Pixels Shader Preset Pack SDR to HDR Conversion
Settings–>Video–>HDR
- Enable HDR - On
- Peak Luminance - 630
- Paper White Luminance - 630
- Contrast - 5.70x - 5.80x
- Expand Gamut - On
Plus
Load a shader preset then follow the steps below:
Reset the following shader parameters to defaults:
- Simulated CRT Gamma - 2.50
- Your Display Gamma - 2.20
Adjust the following settings:
- Contrast - 0.25
If viewing from nearer to the screen and would like a less coarse look, you can lower the Mask - Triad Size Desired from 7.00 to 6.00.
Hey there, I’ve been using these shaders and theyre great, but I have one question. It’s kind of hard to explain, hopefully I can explain it properly.
I spent some time (specificlly on the castlevaina: sotn on psx) making sure I was getting a pefect pixel aspect ratio without ANY stretching/ resizing. So I ended up with interger scaling on x and y, and unncorrected aspect ratio in beetle PSX. My logic was that I want each pixel rendered from the game to line up perfectly with a “pixel” on the crt filter
(ignore the colors, its just to show that they are seperate pixels)
But last night I was thinking, because the crt “pixels” are actually just the (virtual) slot mask, is it actually more accurate to ignore interger scaling and simply force 4:3 aspect ratio into the crt filter, similar to the way a crt projects an analog image onto the slot mask?
Hopefully this makes sense, let me know if I can explain it better.
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basiclly, which of these is more accurate? And does scaling the height to the full 1440p mess with the crt grid at all?
CRT screens don’t have pixels. The number of phosphors on a CRT is fixed, yet CRT screens can display multiple resolutions.
What would work to have the phosphor triads be better aligned with the pixels in graphics is to use a higher TVL CRT Mask.
I don’t think a CRT projects an image onto the mask in a similar manner to how most CRT Shaders scale an image and handle things like OverScan and aspect ratio.
Integer scale tends to provide better looking scanlines and lowers the chance of and occurance of moire patterns.
I really can’t say.
If it’s a non-Integer Scale it can definitely mess with the scanlines.
@1112e I hope my response was worthy enough for your question. I think this is an important yet often overlooked or should I say slightly under appreciated aspect of CRT emulation that probably deserves its own thread.
I think the best way to go about this would be to have a real representative CRT to use for comparison but even something like this can provide skewed results due to geometry adjustments. The reason I say this is because who is to say that every game on every console is supposed to have perfect circles everywhere or would have when viewed on original hardware and a CRT?
This topic is extremely important for correct rendering of things like power bars in many Super Nintendo games, for example Super Double Dragon, Final Fantasy Mystic Quest and the Pow meter in Samurai Showdown.
It’s important to get it right for the audio channel level indicators in the sound test menu of Ninja Spirit for TurboGrafx-16.
Also, many arcade games, for example several Neo Geo Fighting Games as well as several Mortal Kombat sequels have some transparency effects that get messed up if the scaling/aspect ratio is even slightly off.
So do keep up what you’re doing but perhaps this question should be posed to a wider audience who might have much more knowledge of the topic than myself. Remember I don’t even make Shaders, I make presets for shaders. There’s a vast difference.
Next thing I would add is do some research and take a look at @Nesguy’s CRT Shader Presets, they probably never end up outside the pixel boundaries but like I mentioned before, that’s probably due to the higher TVL that he uses.
If you’re on a 1440p screen, one easy way to access higher TVL presets is to use my 1080p Optimized Presets.
Also, in my CRT Royale Preset Pack this is something that I kinda focused on to try to avoid so you should see things being better aligned in that pack. I don’t have any 1440p specific presets in that pack but you can try the 1080p ones or you can also try the 4K ones and just adjust the Desired Triad Size until they look good to you on your 1440p screen.
You can also give Hyllian’s Shader Preset Pack a try.
But to reiterate what I said earlier there’s a big difference between what happens on a real CRT when it comes to aspect ratio than when you’re using Mega Bezel for example and you start cropping Overscan because CRT+Real hardware accurate Overscan and aspect ratio is just not built-in to the front end, shaders or emulator cores as yet.
If it is, I don’t know how to set it up. Some say, just use Core Provided, Some say just set it to 4:3. If using Mega Bezel you’re supposed to set it to Full in the RetroArch Video Scaling menu so that it can be handled by and adjusted via the Mega Bezel Shader Parameters.
I don’t think that gives proper aspect ratios all the time if any at all though because there’s still a lot of video information that gets rendered on the viewport that would otherwise not be rendered on real hardware. So that would probably skew the aspect ratio and then if we decide to manually crop it off, it would skew the aspect ratio again.
The fact that we need per game cropping settings says that something is still missing. We never had to worry about that with CRTs and real hardware. We just plugged and we played. Whatever the result was in those scenarios would be the most accurate results and I think it’s a bit convoluted at the moment to achieve something that should be so simple.
Lastly, just adding this here because I don’t want it lost but I do remember a user who posted that they weren’t satisfied with the aspect ratio they were getting by default on Mega Bezel in SNES games if I recall correctly. They came up with a custom aspect ratio that worked better and was more accurate to them.
Up to now, I can’t get the exact, accurate, correct, proper aspect ratio for Mortal Kombat arcade game sequels, Neo Geo Fighting Games and many more which go overlooked because there may not be as glaring issues.
If anyone knows feel free to direct me.